Sunday, August 19, 2007





I've never been entirely sold on the extraterrestrial interpretation of the eponymous "Roswell Incident," but neither have I been impressed with the Air Force's explanations (the latest being that the strange debris found in the desert belonged to a Project Mogul balloon train). On first glance, Project Mogul seems to address the Roswell enigma. But like the famous "weather balloon" cover-story before it, its allure diminishes in light of the evidence pseudoskeptics prefer to ignore or misinterpret.

Intriguingly, the hallowed Project Mogul story might be about to go down in flames, as Brad Sparks suggests in a post to UFO UpDates. I'll be watching this thread with great interest.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

SPECULATION ALERT! My gut has always told me that Roswell was one of the worst managed cover-ups in history. The messy way it was handled, the numerous cover stories, the witnesses ,all of it lends an air of credibility to the ET angle.

Essentially the government of the day scrambling to cope with something they were ultimately unprepared for. The ensuing administrative bodies then taking the reigns and creating a spin campaign to deal with the chaos of loose ends.

Denny

mister ecks said...

i noticed sparks' comments in his mj-12 mufon paper alluding to this.

like sparks, i'm a roswell skeptic, so this is verrrrrry interesting and potentially disturbing to say the least.

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Anonymous said...

Similarly, all the cover up regarding the Face on Mars issue... So badly handled it actually got ridiculous and exposed NASA lies...

Anonymous said...

The Truth About Roswell New Mexico 1947


To explain this properly, we need to understand a little physics, namely Waves. The waves I am talking about specifically are sound waves, which operate like all waves do, but conceptually they are more familiar to people. Waves are energy and matter. When I speak, I am sending energy into matter (air) and the air molecules transfer the energy in a wave from air molecule to air molecule until they reach your ear and beyond.

During WW2, a physicist named Maurice Ewing discovered something that the whales already knew, namely that about a kilometer under the ocean, there is a strata that will carry sound waves for thousands of miles, its called the sound channel. I’ll explain how it works in a minute, but first here is a little trivia. If a pilot had to ditch his plane or was shot down over the ocean, he was told not to radio for help, because the enemy might pick up that transmission. Instead he was given several of these metal disks that looked like what we would call today flying saucers. He was told to cast one of these disks overboard about every hour or so until he was picked up. The metal disk would sink because it was heavier than an equal amount of water, so when it got to a depth of about 1 kilometer the pressure of the ocean above it would cause it to implode. When this implosion occurred, sound waves would radiate out in all directions like a large circle of sound. If we look at this implosion from the side in our minds we could put a cross + going up, down, left and right, to illustrate this radiation pattern. The sound could also be illustrated by an X instead of/or with a cross, notice the X pattern as opposed to the cross pattern, X +. Now with the X pattern, the sound is traveling at roughly 45 degree angles to the strata of the ocean. When I say strata, I mean to illustrate the different levels of the ocean from a depth of 1 kilometer. At one kilometer you enter what is known as the ‘sound channel’. The water in the sound channel will carry the sound slower than it would travel on the surface or deeper than the sound channel, so when the implosion occurred, some of the X axis sound would travel out at a 45 degree angle which would mean that some of the wave would travel toward the surface or toward the bottom, and some would travel out on the + axis horizontally. The wave moving along the horizontal + axis would be slower than the wave moving out on the x axis, so the sound wave would be reflected from both higher and lower water back toward the horizontal + axis. I will attempt an illustration;






~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Water surface~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sound moves faster
/ This will reflect down in a wave pattern.
/
Sound moves slower Implosion X -----Sound channel------------------------
\
\ This will reflect up in a wave pattern.
Sound moves faster

_____________________________________________Ocean Bottom.
In this illustration the waves on the X axis radiating from the implosion will stay in a tight wave which ranges from above the sound channel to below it because one end of the sound wave will be moving faster than the other.
Anyway, the point is that that disk will cause a sound that can be heard by microphones that the navy put in the sound channel at various locations which when triangulated gave the position of the downed pilot. This was until lately a military secret.
After the war, Ewing came up with a way to monitor the Russian nuclear program to see; 1. where the Russians were testing nuclear bombs, and 2. when they tested them. He (Ewing) discovered that the air has the same setup as the ocean, its just a bit harder to put microphones up there at the correct level, it took massive weather balloons with a series of microphones and a corresponding series of reflectors so they could pinpoint the location of the balloon with radar.

Well in Roswell, one of these balloons came down. The news reported that the government recovered a “downed disk”, but the news actually came from the military, that is before they retracted to just a weather balloon because they didn’t want anyone to know that they were in fact monitoring the Russians nuclear program by listening to the air sound channel for nuclear explosions.

Anyway, one thing led to another, and now disk became a flying disk, then a flying saucer, and the next thing you know, Roswell has a new economy.
The ‘disk’ part of the verbiage, came about because the microphone was shaped like a disk, it was an early attempt at an Omni directional microphone.

So next time someone talks about “The Roswell Incident”, you’ll have something intelligent to say about it.

Anonymous said...

Well, davinci, we all had been wondering for the last 60 years or so, so it's good to know that at long last we have the definitive answer to Roswell.

So, the next time someone starts talking about the Roswell incident, I should discuss metal disks and sound channels. Yeah, that'll go over swimmingly...

On another note: does anyone else begin to get the funny feeling that Brad Sparks may actually know far less than he's always hinting and implying about...?

mister ecks said...

I'm sure that's true of just about everyone who posts on UFO Updates!

Doc Conjure said...

It seems Brad has pissed off a lot of people. He's making semi-grandiose statements without providing anything to back them up. The thread seems just about dead by now so I'm convinced Brad is the ufological equivelant of flash paper.

(Note: If anyone decides to co-author papers on any subject, it's best to share your writings with the co-authors instead of allowing your buddy to have a chance to read it. It's quite pathetic to hear the excuse, 'I didn't have time' when it later turned out he sent a rough draft to Paul Kimball, his buddy & non-co-author)

-Jason Gammon
www.boyinthemachine.blogspot.com